Note: This is the first in a series of conversations with the entrepreneurs, creatives and thinkers we find most inspiring.
Winston Peters believes “brands are the new church” — with the potential to be seen as a positive force for and patrons of the arts and creativity. If that’s true, you could see Winston as a modern minister of culture. He’s a a co-founder of My Über Life, a NYC-based consultancy that advises and catalyzes corporations, entrepreneurs, intrapreneurs, and creatives within the fashion, music, art, design and lifestyle categories. Winston employs this philosophy to help his clients navigate the intersection of culture and commerce.
That intersection was the subject of this inaugural Indwell Interview, as I sat with Winston during happy hour at NeueHouse, a private work collective and creative community to which we both belong.
Before we dove into how artists and brands can best collaborate to create mutually-beneficial relationships, we covered off on equally-important topics like where to satisfy a 4 a.m. jerk-chicken craving and an L.A.-based clothing brand that’s become his go-to business attire.
What are you working on, right now, that you’re most excited about?
“There’s a health and wellness startup we’re working on, which is a new vertical for My Über Life. It’s exciting because health and wellness is the new luxury. Looking at the size of the market, and how people galvanize toward new health and wellness companies — SoulCycle, Equinox. It represents the better form of yourself. So many people connect your physical self with the opportunities you have and the rooms you can be in. It’s a deciding factor: ‘I want to look good naked. I want people to be attracted to me,’ – and clothes alone can’t do that.”
I want a unique dinner in NYC, where do I go?
“I’d send you to Asia de Cuba. It was part of the first hotel that Ian Schrager built. It’s a fusion of Asian and Cuban cuisine. You don’t often find those two meeting…all of the tastes, the flavors, the seasonings make for a great experience. That’s my high-brow. But also, we’d go to a place called Peppas in Brooklyn — right on Flatbush Avenue. It’s a Caribbean restaurant that doesn’t seem to close. You’ll get a line out the door at 4 a.m. It’s where everyone goes for authentic jerk chicken and Caribbean food.”
If you could spend a week anywhere on earth, where would you go?
“Mongolia. There’s so much history there specific to the Silk Road. I want to see how that area had so much impact on the world…the reason why there’s spaghetti in Italy. The things we use today, it’s because of the trade that occurred on the Silk Road.”
What is one brand that best reflects your personality?
"Chapter — a clothing brand based out of LA. It’s super relaxed, but sophisticated. Most of the clothing is black…I wear a lot of black and white. And it gives you the chance to dress it up and down. It reflects a new standard of sophistication and new business attire."
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My Über Life has a client list that spans start-ups, established fashion and lifestyle brands, spirits companies and internationally recognized artists. As we focused our conversation, I asked Winston about the tensions that exist when artists and creatives begin considering commercial partnerships.
“There’s a stereotype that art and commerce don’t go together. That people see the world as art or commerce. But we tell our clients that you need to grow your business to elongate your art. One of the misnomers is that if you sell your art or collaborate with a corporation, you’re selling out. But I’m of the mindset that the corporations, the Pepsis, the Nikes, they are the new Church. They are the new patrons of the arts.”
Winston preaches this gospel to his creative clients, as being commercially successful is one component of what he believes are the three keys to an artist’s success. To understand: 1) their art, 2) the art business, and 3) the art world. “One can’t be a successful artist without addressing all three,”…simply “doing art” isn’t enough. Winston and his partners shine a light on smart commercial ventures, but also instill the personal branding and public relations acumen essential in self-promotion and establishing awareness.
My Über Life frequently consults directly with global brands to help them identify and collaborate with artists and designers. “Some brands go with the low hanging fruit (when it comes to artistic collaborations): ‘this artist is hot right now.’ That’s a piggyback. It ends up feeling inauthentic and calculated.”
Winston and his partners believe that real collaborations should feel authentic and mutually beneficial for both parties for real resonance. He cites two brands that have assumed the role of “patron,” not through one-off campaigns, but decades of commitment. “In terms of the arts, I would always go to Absolut — they really pay attention to the programming and truly act as a patron of the arts. A lot of people don’t realize BMW’s commitment to the arts. Their art car program and mobile museum are huge. They’ve worked with Jeff Koons, Jenny Holzer, Andy Warhol, having them design cars with their signature DNA.”
And for Winston, this collision of culture and commerce isn’t just a niche within which to consult, it’s part of his own DNA. His instagram, @wincep_ofMUL, is a blueprint for bringing diverse influences together. Among his images of gallery openings, panel discussions, behind-the-scenes brand activations and tips on managing cash flow is a quote by Zappos’ Tony Hseih: “Stop chasing money and start chasing the passion.” Winston takes the idea a step further in his own caption: “…chase after your passion, cultivate your passion, profit from your passion.”